【紅帖翻譯】凱爾&魔甘娜 - 你問我答(作家Jellbug)

以下是編劇組的作家之一Jellbug(Rayla Heide),凱爾和魔甘娜的新傳記和故事的作者,在Reddit上的AMA(Ask Me Anything 你問我答)的留言的翻譯。


譯註
1.紅帖以外的留言和問題不會全文翻譯,只會翻譯問題本身。也不會整串所有紅帖都翻譯,只挑我有興趣的。
2.專有名詞會盡量跟隨Garena的翻譯,但有些詞彙尚未在已有的漫畫和故事中出現過,沒有中文版,因此我會用我自己覺得適當的翻譯。
3.內文的時間不知是指哪個時區。寫出來只為作出區分留言先後之用。


紅色代表Riot員工

原帖標題:

We're the Rioters that reworked Kayle and Morgana. Ask us anything!

留言:


-Falrein 2019-3-7 18:59

首先,謝謝你們舉辦這個AMA!我有一些關於凱爾和魔甘娜故事的問題…

和其他星靈相比,她們有多強大?

所有星靈都在世界上扮演著獨特的角色(主要是從大型威脅中保護符文大地),而凱爾和魔甘娜並不是星靈。可是,她們的母親的劍從天而降下來給她們。我們能說她們也在拯救符文大地中扮演著某個角色嗎?或者至少在巨石族(譯註:Targon, 騰訊翻譯成巨神)的計劃中擔當著某種角色?

這個問題可能有點刁鑽,但我們是有甚麼特別原因所以不能知道她們現在在做甚麼嗎?我們這些故事廚(lore-nerds)都喜歡歸納一些故事理論,但這讓我們有點困難!

這條是一題我不期望你會回答的蠢問題,魔甘娜怎麼看星朵拉?

最後,你有比較喜歡其中一個姊妹嗎?還是你同樣的喜歡著(或討厭著)她們?:p

(譯註:下略一些對作者的感謝話語)

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Jellbug 2019-3-7 19:51

(譯註:省略一些對讀者的感謝語)

1) 在某種意義上變強了,在某種意義上也變弱了。就神聖力量(Celestial power)而言,魔甘娜和凱爾很可能比普通的星靈擁有稍為更少的「魔法」,因為她們不像多數星靈那樣,有一個賦有感知能力的神明接管了她們的凡體。但是,也因此,她們是100%以自由意志行動,也有著一個更統一的人格,所以她們的腦海中更少衝突。所以這都看你如何定義何謂力量/強。

2) 她們母親的劍從天而降,標誌著有一些可怕的事正以大規模(在神聖上)發生。另外,她們的母親被揀選為正義星靈的其中一個原因,是因為她懷著凱爾和魔甘娜,星靈早已知道她們會體現出正義的不同面貌。所以,對的,我認為她們會成為拯救符文大地的一份子,也會在巨石峰發生的事中扮演某種角色。

3) 我在這帖中寫了凱爾/魔甘娜在現在的時間點裡正在做甚麼:)
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ayfxhw/were_the_rioters_that_reworked_kayle_and_morgana/ei0hrmb/

4) 這不是蠢問題!我想魔甘娜會比多數的人都對星朵拉更有同理心,因為她明白她是經歷了甚麼樣的痛苦和折磨而變成現在的樣子。但是這並不能使她免罪,魔甘娜會想她為那些她傷過、殺過的人贖罪,並且感受一下她讓其他人承受的痛苦,使她能從自己的過失中學習。

5) 魔甘娜是我在LOL首個學會的英雄,所以我對她有著特別的感情。可是,很奇怪的,我更認同凱爾那種完美主義與自我質疑(尤其是在她遊戲初期的語音,例如「在我裡面的黑暗,由我來照亮。」或是「尋求光明的路是一條寂寞的路」,我也希望人們能理解她犧牲了來達致她所認為的「神聖(divine)」。

有甚麼問題都能隨時問我喔!:D

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Mafros99 2019-3-7 20:00

給Jellbug的問題:

在你看來,兩姊妹各自最大的優點和缺點是甚麼?

她們的母親發生甚麼事了?我們知道她的劍從天上掉下來了,所以都假定她已經死了,但她真的已經死了嗎?如果是的話,是發生甚麼事了?

和上述問題差不多,正義星靈發生甚麼事了?他還與她們的母親在一起嗎?還是跟凱爾?跟魔甘娜?還是他不知怎的一分為二了?星靈能這樣被分割的嗎?(在陷入一些阿里烏教派的混亂之前我就先打住好了)(譯註:阿里鳥教派認為神與耶穌基督是兩個分離的個體)

你認為兩個姊妹各自在LOL故事的力量排行中排第幾?如果她們並肩作戰的話,她們又會變得多強?

她們比柔伊年輕還是老?

她們對於柔伊、其他星靈、龍獸、巨石峰整體,所知多少?

「拿起劍,長了翅膀」這整件事是怎麼發生的?是劍本身有甚麼特別嗎?還是她們的力量是由某個個體所賜?


儘管她們現在很不一樣,但從她們的語音可見凱爾和魔甘娜還些表面上對對方的手足之愛。她們有可能再次相遇嗎?又或是甚至某天會和解?(最好是魔甘娜發現她一直以來都錯了,並且發現凱爾確實是完美的)

她們還是凡人時的生活是怎樣的?她們有多親近?她們會一起做些甚麼?

凱爾對當代的蒂瑪西亞是抱著甚麼立場?尤其是對人們對她的祟拜有甚麼想法?她以後還會再去那兒嗎?

凱爾還需要進食嗎?她最喜歡的食物是甚麼?

凱爾有多堅持嚴刑峻法?一些與此相關的問題:
要是有人因為飢餓而偷麵包,她會懲罰他們嗎?
是不是所有她的刑罰都包括死亡?

其中一件讓我對語音有點不滿的是語音有點短,這當中有甚麼原因嗎?

另一件我在她的語音發現到的事,是她的劍名叫德行(Virtue)。這是不是來自某個建議?(是的話我會超高興)

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Jellbug 2019-3-7 22:54

哈囉!謝謝你所有的問題!我會盡力回答 :)

凱爾最大的缺點 - 她自以為正義,以及她讓自己無視自己的過失。凱爾最大的優點 - 她很理想念的渴望著在世界裡做好事以及保護無辜。魔甘娜最大的缺點 - 她無法放下過去的過失。魔甘娜最大的優點 - 她對所有罪犯的同理心,不論他們犯了甚麼罪。

關於她們的母親,很多人(例如凱爾/魔甘娜的父親,還有很可能魔甘娜也是)認為她的劍從天落下是代表她已經死了。但我會說,永遠不要信一個沒有真的演出來的死亡 :) 無論發生了甚麼事,她的劍從天而降很可能代表彌赫菈遇上麻煩而且需要她的女兒來擔起她的責任。至於她是死了,還是無法行動了,又還是在某個她逃不出去的地方,我們就不得而知了。

她們的母親是正義星靈。凱爾和魔甘娜有神聖力量是因為她們在彌赫菈變成星靈時在她的肚子裡,但她們本身本不是星靈。不過她們確實有著彼此衝突的正義的特質。

凱爾和魔甘娜並沒有神聖星靈(Celestial Aspects)那麼強大,因為她們並不是真的有個不朽之神在她們的腦海中。但是,假若她們並肩作戰,她們對正義、刑罰和慈愛的相反信念,以及她們相異的魔法技能,會使她們比起直接把兩人的特性加起來還要更強。

對的,她們不是星靈,但她們是半神聖(Celestial)半凡人的存在。

她們比柔伊年輕。

她們在蒂瑪西亞被一個人類父親養大,所以她們對於巨石峰和其他星靈所知不多,只知道一些她們從(不太可靠的)來源聽來的事。但現在凱爾要去巨石峰了,她一定會認識更多其他神聖生物,也很可能會遇上祂們。

當凱爾和魔甘娜拿起她們母親的劍時,她們與生俱來的神聖魔法(Celestial magic)在她們體內甦醒,她們得到了力量和翅膀。所以,這份力量是一直都在她們的DNA裡的,只是需要被解鎖。

你一語中的了!凱爾和魔甘娜肯定仍然相愛的,即使這份愛被埋在許多感情包袱之下。要是她們再次相遇(我覺得她們應該要再次相遇!),她們都得放下身段來承認她們的過錯。或許這在她們遇上共同敵人時就會發生了…

我想她們年幼在蒂瑪西亞成長時非常親密。她們會做很多普通小孩會做的事,例如去爬那些太高的樹,搞破壞,探索周邊奇怪的森林等等…

凱爾對當代的蒂瑪西亞百感交雜。我想她會認為他們扭曲了很多曾經使他們變得強大的理想的本意,並且把這些理想推向極端。她也不會同意最近因賽勒斯逃走而起的混亂以及無法無天的狀態。

凱爾最喜歡的食物是羽衣甘藍。抱歉,我必須選這個。(譯註:Kale羽衣甘藍,與Kayle凱爾同音)

凱爾認為刑罰只要符合其所犯的罪就是合理的。所以,是的,她會懲罰那些偷麵包的人,但這刑罰會與這宗罪成比例。以眼還眼。她視這種刑罰為贖罪,也是最終的刑罰,絕對不是甚麼罪都得死。

我很喜歡那個為劍命名的討論串!


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原文:


-Falrein 2019-3-7 18:59

So... First of all thanks for hosting the AMA! I do have a few questions regarding Kayle and Morgana's lore...

In contrast to other Aspects, how powerful are they?

Aspects all have a peculiar role to play in the world (mostly to protect Runeterra from huge threats), and Kayle and Morgana aren't Aspects. However, their mother's sword fell from the skies for them. Can we conclude that they have a big part to play in Runeterra's salvation? Or at least in Targon's plans?

This one is a bit tricky but is there a peculiar reason why we don't know what they are up to in the present? We lore-nerds love to theorize but it makes things harder for us!

This one's a stupid question I'm not even expecting answered, but what would Morgana think of Syndra?

And last but not least, is there a sister you prefer, or do you love (or hate) them both equally? :p

Anyway, to Jellbug, if you ever read this, I'd like to tell you you're amazing, and I'd LOVE to chit-chat with you someday because you actually worked on my two favourite goth girls :D! You're an amazing writer, and I hope you'll be able to work on them both again!

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Jellbug 2019-3-7 19:51

Hello! thanks so much for the sweet message and for reading <3 <3

1) In some ways more and in some ways less. In terms of Celestial power, Morgana and Kayle probably have slightly less "magic" than typical Aspects, since they don't have a sentient immortal that has taken over their mortal bodies (like most Aspects). BUT because of this, they have 100% of their own free will and a more unified identity, and so are less conflicted within their own minds. So it depends how you define power/strength.

2) Their mother's sword falling from the skies was a major moment that denoted something dire happening on a large (Celestial) scale. Also, their mother was chosen as the Aspect of Justice in part because she was pregnant with Kayle and Morgana, who the Aspect knew would exemplify two different sides of justice. So yes, I do think they would have a part to play in Runeterra's salvation and in anything that happens in Targon prime.

3) I wrote about what Kayle/Morgana are doing in the present here :) https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ayfxhw/were_the_rioters_that_reworked_kayle_and_morgana/ei0hrmb/

4) Not a stupid question! I think Morgana would be more empathetic than most with Syndra because she understand the pain and suffering she's gone through to get where she is now. However, this does not absolve her of her sins, and Morgana would want her to atone for the people she hurt and killed, and feel the pain she has caused in order to learn from her mistakes.

5) Morgana was the first champ I learned in LoL so I have a soft spot for her. However I weirdly identify with Kayle's perfectionism and self doubt (especially in her early game lines, e.g. "What is dark in me, I will illuminate." or "The path to the light is a lonely one."), and hope that people understand what she has given up to become "divine" as she sees it.

Feel free to send me more questions anytime! :D

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Mafros99 2019-3-7 20:00

For /u/Jellbug:

In your opinion, what is each sister's worst flaw? And their best quality?

What actually happened to their mother? We know her sword dropped from the sky and we assume she's dead, but is she really? And if so, how did it happen?

On a similar note,what happened to the Aspect of Justice? Is still with their mother, with Kayle, with Morg or kind of split between the two? Can an Aspect even be split? (Okay I'm gonna stop now before we start going into some arianism mess)

Where would you place each of the sisters in League's Big Lore Power RankingTM? And if both fought together, how much stronger would they be?

What really are them? They weren't exactly chosen as Aspects, but they're clearly not mortal, so how would you classify them?

Are they older or younger than Zoe?

How much do they know about Zoe, the other Aspects, ASol and Targon in general?

How did the whole "pick up sword, gains wings" thing happen? Is it something special about the sword itself or was their power granted by some entity?

Despite their differences, it's clear in their VO that Kayle and Morg still have some semblance of fraternal love for each other. Is it possible that they meet again, and maybe even reconcile some day (preferably with Morg realizing that's she's been wrong this entire time and that Kayle is literally perfect)?

How was their mortal life? How close were they and what kind of stuff did they do together?

What's Kayle stance on modern Demacia, specially with the the whole worshipping her thing? Is she going to go there any time soon?

Does Kayle still have to eat? What is/was her favorite food?

Just how draconic Kayle actually is? Subquestions:

If someone starving stole a bread, would she punish them?
Does she reward/encourage the pure, or exclusively punish the wicked?
Does all of her punishments involve death?
One of the few things that got me a bit bummed about the VO was that it is quite short. Is there any reason for that?

Another thing that I noticed on her VO is that her sword is named Virtue. Did this come out of any particular suggestion? (Please tell me yes, you'll make me so incredibly happy)



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Jellbug 2019-3-7 22:54

Hello! thanks for all the questions! I'll do my best to answer em :)

Kayle's worst flaw - her self righteousness and ability to blind herself to her own flaws and mistakes. Kayle's best quality - her idealistic desire to do good in the world and protect innocents. Morgana's worst flaw - her inability to let go of past mistakes. Morgana's best quality - the empathy she feels for all sinners, regardless of their crime.

Regarding their mother, many (like Kayle/Morg's father, and probably Morgana) think her sword falling from the sky mean she's dead. But I would say, never trust an offscreen death :) In any case, her sword falling from the sky likely means Mihira is in trouble and needs her daughters to take up her mantle. Whether she is dead or incapacitated or in another realm she cannot escape from, we don't know.

Their mother was the Aspect of Justice. Kayle and Morgana have Celestial power because they were in Mihira's womb when she became an Aspect, but they are not Aspects themselves. They do both have conflicting qualities of justice, though.

Kayle & Morgana are less strong than Celestial Aspects because they don't literally have an immortal god in their heads. BUT if they fought together, their opposing beliefs in justice, punishment, and mercy PLUS their different magical abilities would make them much more than the sum of their parts.

Yep, they aren't Aspects, but they are half Celestial, half mortal beings.

They're younger than Zoe.

They were raised in Demacia by a human father, so don't know that much about Targon and other Aspects other than what they've heard from (sometimes unreliable) sources. But now that Kayle is going to Targon, she will certainly learn more and likely meet other Celestials.

When Kayle & Morgana picked up their mother's sword, the Celestial magic that they had since they were born awoke in them and they gained powers and wings. So the power was in their DNA this whole time, but needed to be unlocked.

You hit the nail on the head! Kayle and Morgana definitely still have love for each other, even if it's buried under a lot of emotional baggage. If they were to meet again (which I think they should!) they both would need the humility to admit their mistakes. Perhaps this would happen if they encountered a common enemy...

I think they were super close as young girls growing up in early Demacia. They did lots of normal kid things, such as climbing trees that were too high, causing mayhem, exploring the strange forests nearby, etc.

Kayle would have a lot of Thoughts on modern day Demacia. I think she would believe they have twisted a lot of the original ideals that made them great, and taken them to an extreme. She would also take issue with Demacia's recent lawlessness and chaos with Sylas' escape.

Kayle's favorite food is KALE. Sorry, had to.

Kayle views punishment as fair when it fits the crime. So yes, she would punish someone who stole a loaf of bread, but in a way that is proportionate to the scale of the crime. An eye for an eye type stuff. She views this kind of punishment as redemptive, and final, and it definitely doesn't always have to be death.

Love the sword naming thread!

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