【弗雷爾卓德 - 紅帖翻譯(五)】血誓之間吵架怎麼辦?泰達米爾不是艾希第一個求婚的人?(作家WAAARGHbobo)

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艾希漫畫的實體本現已在Amazon有售,包含了漫畫(全四話)以及角色設定等等的額外內容。除了紙本之外,也能購買Kindle版本。Odin說過這次漫畫的銷量會成為日後能否有另一部弗雷爾卓德漫畫(很可能與史瓦妮相關)的關鍵。喜歡漫畫的話請多多支持。



以下是編劇組的作家之一WAAARGHbobo(Odin Austin Shafer),《戰爭之女:艾希》的編劇,在官方討論區上針對剛推出的漫畫實體本的留言的翻譯。

譯註
1.其他人的留言和問題不會全文翻譯,只會翻譯問題本身。也不會整串紅帖都翻譯,只挑我有興趣的留言。
2.專有名詞會盡量跟隨Garena的翻譯,但有些詞彙尚未在已有的漫畫和故事中出現過,沒有中文版,因此我會用我自己覺得適當的翻譯。而「Warmother」這個字,Garena譯作「戰爭之女」,但作者曾說Mother是這稱號中很重要的一部份,因此我譯成「戰爭之母」
3.內文標示的時間是我的時區,不是作者的寫區。寫出來只為作出區分留言先後之用。


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Ashe: Warmother Physical Edition Available Now!原文連結

留言:

patmax17 (EUW) 2019-5-16 10:15

我有個問題:一個戰爭之母的不同誓盟(Oathbounds)之間的關係是怎樣的?換言之,他們如何看待彼此?我猜他們是全都住在一起的,得與彼此一起相處,他們喜不喜歡對方會影響他們之間的關係嗎?如果一個戰爭之母與一個不被其他誓盟所喜歡的男人立誓,會發生甚麼事?這些誓盟會有微言嗎?
另一方面,誓盟可以喜歡其他誓盟嗎?我想戰爭之母的家庭是比較像開放式關係的,而這些都是有可能遇上的情況

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WAAARGHbobo (NA) 2019-5-16 16:01

在弗雷爾卓德同性戀並不是禁忌,除非這會影響到你的角色責任。然而,性別規範是很嚴格地實行的(儘管他們所認為的規範與我們所知的有很大差異)。

我想誓盟之間的關係並不是一定是甚麼樣子的。有時是緊密的手足情,有時是滿滿的爭吵和鬥爭。他們把這些誓約看得很重,因此都是經過很多討論才確立的。要是一個領袖強逼他帶領的人去做不喜歡的事,那他就不是一個好領袖了。但我們也得緊記他們對婚姻的概念與我們大相逕庭。對他們來說婚姻是在於保護,而不是財產契約。所以群體之間的團結和戰鬥之中的協同也是婚姻的考量。

你可能會因為你愛某個人而與他結婚,但通常都是因為你覺得某個人夠強壯而且能保護你的小孩而與他結婚——尤其是你有可能會因為有了某個愛人/伴侶,你想要找個方法保護你孩子的地位,所以你與另一個人結婚。

我想葛雷爾大多數的誓盟都從未與她睡過——他們可能是單身,他們可能有家庭(那些小孩會變成葛蕾娜「血親的血親」,因此也是葛蕾娜家庭/家臣的一部份),他們可能為了鞏固部族間的和平而嫁給她。

我覺得葛蕾娜娶伊魯(譯註:艾希的生父)是因為他是一個天生的領袖,一個強大的戰士。他年紀更大,更成熟,與其他男人相處得很好,所以他使葛蕾娜的團體變得完全。葛蕾娜看著他領導大家,與他共事,然後她愛上了他。

我希望這些複雜性也是日後我們會看到史瓦妮和艾希為之苦惱的。因為,我會說,在我計劃的時間線裡,泰達米爾並不是第一個被艾希問要不要嫁給她的男人。

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patmax17 (EUW) 2019-5-16 10:15

I definitely liked what you did with the freljord, their culture has a distinct and interesting flair that I love, and I appreciate that it makes sense in the context of the region: survival is difficult, and thus there's a strong sense of family and protecting women and their offspring, and fighting and war are important parts of the everyday life, since tribes have to fight over the scarce resources.
I was wondering: what is the relation between the different Oathbounds a Warmother has? I.e., how do they see each other? I guess they all live together and thus spend their time with one another, but does it matter if they like each other? What happens if a Warmother takes an Oath from a man her other Oathbounds don't like? Can they say anything?
And/or on the other hand, can Oathbounds love other Oathbounds? Overall I think the family of a Warmother has resemblance to an open relationship, and these are situations that do arise

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WAAARGHbobo (NA) 2019-5-16 16:01

Homosexuality probably isn’t taboo in the freljord. Unless it affects your obligations— and roles. But probably gender norms are pretty severely enforced. (Though what they consider “normal” is very far from what we would recognize).

I think the relationships between the various oathbound are kinda up in the air. Sometimes brotherhood and a tight bond other times drama and fighting. I dont think these bonds are taken lightly and thus aren't done without a fair amount input and discussion. It would be poor leadership to force someone on the group. But its important to keep in mind they have very different idea of marriage than we do. It’s about protection instead of property. So probably unit cohesion and battle synergy is a marriage consideration too.

You might “marry” someone because love them, but more often you are marrying them because you think they are strong and will protect your children—you might especially marry someone because you already have different lover/spouse and are looking for a way to secure your current children's position.

I think several if not most of Grena’s oathbound never slept with her— maybe they were single, maybe they had families (which would make those kids “kin of kin” and thus a part of grena’s family/retainers. Maybe they married her to cement the peace between tribes.

And I think Grena married Yriel because he was a natural leader and a strong warrior. He completed the unit because he was older, experienced, and got along well with the other men. Then seeing him lead, working with him, Grena fell for him.

Hopefully the complexity is all something we can see Sejuani and Ashe struggling with in the future. Because i will say— in my proposed timeline. Tryndamere is not the first man ashe asked to “marry” her.

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